Bona DriFast Stains are compatible with all Bona finishing systems, including waterborne. It's a installer issue. Two things to do: First, drag your fingernail across it, see what happens. Bona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. My installer did 2 coats of Nordic Seal today. @Bongo. And the Nordic seal was beautiful but it was a little cold and it didnt look as good next to a warmer paint color we plan to use. Use natural seal. Our project starts on Dec 5. I thought I was going with Pallman's white, because it was gorgeous on the 15"X8" sample but on the larger sample with a new bundle of wood it pulled way too pink, even on white oak. WebWe just installed 5 white oak throughout our home. @tkgriff Thanks for sharing the photos. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. Finally, I coated half of my sample with their Fortico Satin and I could not see the poly at all. I dont want to hide the clerestory windows with coverings and dont like the strings that show with bottom-up shades (maybe OK for the bedrooms). Sie knnen nicht notwendige Cookies ber Einstellungen verwalten ablehnen. I fear, though, that the amber color has penetrated the wood since a sealer was not used and I am stuck with a yellow floor. The correct answer should be "nothing at all". Mega One is a clear non-yellowing finish. We learned a lot from seeing the color and pattern differences between the American white oak and Norwegian white oak (and white oak from other areas). I just got samples and have found mixing the white with mist gives almost an exact color for unfinished white oak. We planned to wait 6 days to move in and will use felts and place furniture down gently. Yep. They either look to white/milkey or they are orangish yellow. We have just received a couple samples however and they haven't had the same look as some of the inspiration picture. @mtpo did you use a satin or matte finish? Also is he recommending abrading between the coats? If that's OK to do (ie I remember hearing it's a problem when you apply more layers like poly but I'm not sure) it might work for you. BTW, we used Corian old fashioned solid surface Corian in our kitchen and in 2 bathrooms. He told me that the floor would look the same, which was obviously a lie. Ask for Bona Mega One. Let him fix it ONCE. I know one of the Milesi products in the natural effects side does contain a UV filter. Indem Sie auf Annehmen klicken, stimmen Sie dem zu. A friend of mine had her red oak floors sanded and bleached to get the pink out and then sealed them. I think they are some discussions on houzz regarding that. The white background wasnt a true white but it wasnt bad and the marbling was pretty. 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The pillow is from our sofa. The cost of the floors is such a big expenditure that I didnt even ask the installer if or how much he was charging me for the samples I chalked it up to the overall cost of the floors. Find the right local pro on Houzz to kickstart your project. I always keep at least 100 bundles of stone in stock that I personally hand pick so I purchase thousands of slabs a year. Not the best lighting. 2 coats of Nordic seal & 2 coats of traffic HD ? Do not use the following Bona naturale, Loba invisible, pearl or pure For the top coat. Thats a problem Im left with and he wrote that message to me, not the hardwood installer. 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It has been a nightmare trying to find this look in my area. I still hope to get my dream kitchen. Part of me wishes we went satin finish bc I realized I do like a little sheen on a floor (just washed look). Thank you for posting a picture! G & S gave helpful advice prior to these last two posts that are nasty. It is my impression that this as raw wood had less variation in color from one board to another and less pronounced grain and was a bit lighter than the American white oak or the other European white oak I saw. Dear Doane, A well established hardwood flooring company (a "ma and pa" type store) will have the big machines to get the product off of your floor. HELP!!! Could my response be taken incorrectly? Finished with three matte protective coats. It won't tell you what caused the scratching (glass particles in sand is the usual culprit. My contractor recommended leaving it natural and using a Bona Mega finish which was supposed to dry clear. I will report back once I have the application on a sample board. Double cost any standard stained finish. Whaaaaat???? is the only way to go. It's hard to tell how deep those scratches are. It looks like you have SOLID 5" (that ranks as wide plank = glue assist) White Oak. You only need an inch. If it does nothing: Take a piece of masking tape (not painters tape). I worry that two coats might look too light, but with one coat, I still see some yellow coming through (my sample has the Traffic HD matte though, not satin). You should be able to try to scrape it (drag it hard across at any angle), dent it (press your nail in), etc, and nothing visible *at all* should happen. Due to it's ingredients, It is mainly used for custom color mixes with dyes and Bona's sport paint line for insane color schemes. Any specific fillers recommended for the knots & gaps ? I am actually in the process of having a quart sample of the Milesi Natural Effect 2k finish sent my way. Or Bona Traffic + their stain line. This photo Nordic is on the top and Natural is on the bottom. But some of the most popular recent kitchens on Houzz tell a different story, Whether light and breezy or rich and moody, these wood-rich kitchens might make you rethink painted cabinets, If you favor a little color in your kitchen, look to these spaces that run the gamut from light to dark, See how the most popular kitchen cabinet color effortlessly supports a variety of inviting design features, Tired of white? I didnt know what I wanted for finish when I contracted the job and their quote was for a cheaper finish. I did a larger sample of Unico smoke, covered with their Titan (goes on with a roller) and tested it with salty water, red wine and vinegar. @ Moran.now I see where this has come up. So hand rail and newl postadvice would be appreciated! So they use 3 gal of product and it appears the TrafficHD is $100/gal more +/- than the cheaper stuff. if so, the bank may be able to give you your money back if you dispute the charge for red oak and the install. I waxed it out. I cannot find any locally. As for the cost of install$5/sf with FULL SPREAD glue + stain + sanding + finish (materials extra) is on the low side. We are going with Ciranova "smoke" Unico oil--a one coat product--- which is very similar to Rubio's Smoke 5%, but it can be covered with Ciranova's Fortico (supposedly equal to Bona Traffic). Although, it can be used as a stand alone sealer. While I am not happy that we are all having this issue - I am somewhat relived to see that I am actulally not losing my mind that this look should be achievable in some fashion . There are some lap lines on the floors from the sealer. Those are STUNNING! and 3 coats of Satin (which satin did you choose since there are 5 satins from Bona). I recall having 3 layers - but my old post notes 4. Dry finish. WebBona NaturalSeal Brand: Bona 87 ratings $8892 FREE Returns Customer ratings by feature Durability 5.0 Value for money 4.3 Easy to use 4.0 See all reviews Similar item to consider Amazon's Choice AmazonCommercial Multi-Purpose Enzyme Cleaner, 1-Gallon, 1-Pack (12347) $24.97 ($0.20/Fl Oz) Frequently bought together + + Total price: The trick is to A) find the professional trained in water based finishes and B) keep the sheen to satin or matte. Have experienced installers figured out how to use the Nordic in open floor plan homes? Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. Im struggling with the same issue thanks! First - The second pic you gave looks really weird. Gravity works. My suggestion is to figure out what type of 'cleaning' person you are. Originally, I had declared never to Quartz after reading peoples complaints about chipping and cracks. That means a single guy can take his time. Think about going stylishly dark instead, The international shows designers bring the focus back to the craftsmanship and luxurious materials of the 1920s, See why an engineered wood floor could be your best choice (and no one will know but you), Gleaming wood floors are a thing of beauty. How to best deal with prominent railings in split level home, Durability of white macabus quartzite vs. quartz. @Renee Czeryba, Natural SEALER and Traffic HD. Bona Traffic finishes questions for people that have used it. I like natural white oak with your concept. Thanks so much! I still love the white oak but maybe with less wood cabinets maple will be ok. If so what brand and color was used? I need to see the seal samples still but Ill post a picture of the finished floors in a week! Still a good quality product line, just not the best. It still should not come off. Maybe a snick less because they won't be using any product. (Mirror and lighting still not in). think it turned out well. The bleaching added to the cost and another opportunity for something to go wrong. Carly, we are trying to decide between Bona Classic Seal or Natural Seal? Will there be less haze if we use a satin finish? The main thing to worry about when it comes to Quartzite is if it is actually a true Quartzite. I will post pictures. Here are some of my samples. I have read through almost every post here looking to see how to get the most natural finish without yellowing. I'm sorry you felt diminished. However, I failed to visualize the tan natural against the grey bathroom tile. Held off on final coat until project finished.. which will be done in a few days. William Smith, D.D., was Bona Intense Seal Bona Classic Seal Bona Neutral Seal DuraSeal Weathered Oak Stain DuraSeal Silvered Gray Stain Bona Drifast Stain The Finish We Chose You may not be aware of the fact that white oak floors do not need to be stained. Its no different than my quartz countertop and backsplash that also should not have acidic or harsh chemicals, and Im sure most professional contractors wouldnt recommended against quartz behind a stove. This only matters for porosity not hardness. Based on the research I've done, Nordic Seal has a tendency to show white streaks on the floor. Is This the Year Blue and Green Kitchen Cabinets Edge Out White? WebBona sealer to avoid uneven tannin pull due to using a water based poly, (especially on white oak), no stain, then Bona Traffic HD. and I wish we had another layer of protection. They just came out with the same wood thats 1/8 inch thinner as an option. I dont recall the price of the lumber / the price our builder charged us (he ordered it on his account). If ending up with the typical honey oak is my only choice, then I'd rather just get painted maple/mdfwhich isn't what I want! Came out a little lighter, but it all depends on your preference. Sigh. I know this is a flooring product but the color was almost perfect. My vanity with Corian and porcelain sink. They are not even good choices for low care floors. More great information. - I got the curved 1/4 backsplash (if you can call that a backsplash). 1 coat in the morning and 1 coat in the afternoon. A hint of tan. 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Ryan Danielson and Angela Watkins did either of you find a solution to achieve the natural white oak finish you were looking for? I plan to call the Bona company tomorrow to get their assistance. See the before and afters and why we chose this color. I didnt want to pull up the protective paper but you can see the floor a little better in this photo. Thanks! True Quartzite is very dense and many are not prone to staining. Thank you. Its for a new build. Ill post more pictures when I get back to the house. He is also meeting with Sherwin Williams this weekend at a trade show in Vegas and will see if there are any better options to achieve the Studio McGee look on rift white oak we are all looking for. Buyer beware, you should be nervous. If a few hundred dollars (or even more), meant the difference between loving my finished product and hating it, I felt having samples was well worth the cost. 2 coats at the right coverage is more than enough for low traffic areas. I had some 2 x 2 Corian samples that kept calling my name. Please help on base, crown, window, door molding size decision. Is there a really hidden section (you only need about 1 inch square) that you don't mind possibly damaging? Houzz Pro: One simple solution for contractors and design pros. It seems like we are the first to ask for the white oak with all the cabinet makers in our area. , So your final finish was 1 coat of Nordic Seal with 3 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin? Sure, white kitchens are beautiful when theyre sparkling clean. Red and white oak floors are increasing in popularity. My new white oak floors have 1 coat of Bona Natural Seal and 2 coats of Bona Traffic HD satin. Are light white oak wire brushed floors hard to keep clean? Can you also please send a picture of the floors with the seal and traffic HD? The stain alone does not protect the floors, just adds color. Thank you. The installer did a great job with the install, he fell down with the stain and finish. Don't change chemical companies in the middle of a refinish. My husband and I had 5" white oak floors installed and we are like the look of one coat of Bona Nordic Seal and two coats of satin water based polyurethane on our floors. En cliquant sur Accepter , j'accepte l'utilisation des cookies telle qu'elle est dcrite plus en dtail dans la Politique d'Utilisation des Cookies de Houzz. It can work with a range of subfloors, including concrete, Looking for something different from an all-white kitchen? If you want a bit of "yellow depth" to the floor, then work with an oil modified. Bona NaturalSeal has a bit of white pigment (less than NordicSeal). Classic seall will add more tan/yellow. When was the last coat applied? The cabinets were custom and all paint is SW- Pure White. Past techniques to achieve a natural floor look relied on harsh chemicals like bleach, two-part peroxide-based strippers or oxalic acid. Contact your Bona rep to understand all the options with the Bona System or view our catalog here: https://bit.ly/3eqqhSK. Our new floors just got done and we got to sneak a peek. These are the LVP samples and my unfinished white oak stair parts. If you wanted a specific COLOUR range (but didn't say anything about the look of raw wood) then the finisher brought what s/he sees people RIGHT NOW wanting (because it is trendy). Press it very hard into the coating, and rip it up. A new color true black is introduced by Duraseal. WebWhite Oak Kitchen Cabinets - Bona NaturalSeal? p.s. Hard to believe contractors would use your countertops as work bench! We elected to go with rift sawn white oak cabinets. The edge is not as nicely finished as the Corian. I'm sorry but this finish is not "salvageable". Two coats of Bona Traffic HD Commercial Matte This is a higher cost process, since it is a top of the line water based poly that prevents yellowing over time. Any suggestions on deciding one over the other? Then ask the fabricator about the stone you are considering if it's purchased from a separate slab yard. Site finish your floors with Rubio monocoat and get exactly what you want. Cant wait to see the reveal, @mtpo - Floors are looking fabulous! She lucked out and her floors look pretty good. WebBona Natural Seal stain on white oak hardwood floor and 3 coats Bona Traffic HD Matte on top. WebWe ended up using one coat of Bona natural sealer and two coats of HD matte on the floors. Doing a light stain like this is not easyand it takes time. Some Quartzites are more grainy which make them more porous. NordicSealis an easy to use water-based sealer from Bonawhich you can use it to achieve this popular whitewashed look. Can a bathroom door swing out instead of in? Looking for something similar to yours, thank you! @clairepope It's only been a year - so far they are perfect! I checked Durasupreme and they have white oak but not in the shade we like. ! Yours looks so light and bright. This is Bona Natural Seal and Bona Nordic Seal on sanded white oak. Michael, do you have pics of the intense seal? It is my understanding that these Bona products are tricky to apply. If those were red oak, they did a very good job toning down the red. If that does something, it's busted, you don't need to test further. BTW -/ we learned that the color of the wood is different and takes the sealer or stain differently depending on where it is from. Met with our selected cabinet company last week and played with stain mixed with white paint on rift oak samples. Many customers like a dark stain because it looks modern and the floor is easy to decorate. Again, just make sure that you are getting professional grade rather than DIY grade product. The floors are being installed and finished by Brazilian Floors (they have several locations in the D.C. metro area). I am posting some final outcome pictures in different rooms and lighting. A red oak floor does not need sealant. And cure times are the BEST case scenario (temps and humidity are ASSUMED to be PERFECT = they NEVER are in a home setting = please leave an extra day). Dark floors are pretty popular with clients but as you mention usually going with white or painted cabinets. Why did you decide to go with Corian? That means a coat of Sealant and two coats of finish. The use of water based is VASTLY different from oil based. Make sure you use a PROFESSIONAL who is TRAINED in water based applications. I"m just assuming you don't want to cut up your floor. @mtpo - When will your floors be finished? Working Bona Traffic is 10x harder than off the shelf stuff. I don't want yellow - so thinking Natural or Nordic - but I'm worried about the white wash being too much. Carlyweiss, your post and pictures are so helpful for those of us in the choosing process. Its not a guarantee that the floors wont get damaged, but perhaps the extra coat will buy me a little more time to clean up a wet spot. After seeing this post and refinishing parents floor, I want your oak in my house you did fantastic job. ISO something similar to Hallmark Alta Vista "Malibu" in urethane, Questions about chemicals in vinyl install - foul odor, health probs. We were going after the Studio McGee house look attached. Also what do you mean by toned oak? All of their materials will have to be paid for (as part of your contract), but it can be done. It is 3/4 x 5 solid white oak hardwood. Its a shame since it could be helpful for others. DuraSeal is light on the wallet (of the contractor) so they like to use it. Here are our raw floors right now. Here are some of my samples. How to keep red oak floors light and natural? 3 coats of HD.I am OOT so will post photos when I get home. Just found out distributors only sale in gallon sizeso its not going to be an option for metoo expensive to pay for gallons in seal and finish just to test it. He will then send the sample to a Sherwin Williams Product Finishes Store and they will match the sample. Rift white oak lowers and white uppers. Seems I also read that it may not even cover that much some places. Yes, Trump2 I agree. I got a quartz remnant for the tub area (a kinda white) in my hideaway bathroom and Ocean Jasper Quartz for the master ADA bathroom. It is less than $0.85/sf. The info is helpful and Im discerning enough to sort out immature comments. And the professional you spoke to is correct: the 'hand sanding' is NO WHERE NEAR the same finish/product as the machine with 'final-grit' sanding. WebBona NaturalSeal is a waterborne sanding sealer designed to retain the appearance of unfinished wood on your floor. Color we like the Bona Nordic best and the Bona Natural second, but they both have a muddy haze when you see them in real life. But maybe it is just old and scratched over the years?
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